Saanen, 12th of July, 1979

It is very important that we not only learn to listen properly, but also have the capacity which comes naturally if you are interested, in being able to see that is false and it is finished. I will put aside my opinion, I won't let that interfere. And can we together put aside all our ideals? Because we are thinking this out together, because we are enquiring into the question of security. We think we are secure when we pursue an ideal, however false it is, however unreal it is, which has no validity, it gives a certain sense of purpose. And that sense of purpose gives a certain quality of assurance, satisfaction, security. Right? Can we go along? Not go along verbally but actually you have put aside your ideals.